For anyone not on twitter I listened to this podcast with Le

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For anyone not on twitter I listened to this podcast with Leland Very awesome I still need to dig more on some of the topics that were covered like why just having your UI in xml and logic in kotlin not actually real separation of concerns It s definitely a big mindset shift <https fragmentedpodcast com episodes 196 >

Leland Richardson [G] · Answer

Glad you liked it I m happy to answer any questions here about that stuff if you have any fwiw

Colton Idle · Answer

< Leland Richardson G > I may be mis remembering but I think you mentioned increasing cohesion vs minimizing coupling or you talked about reading some article about the subject or something like that Any chance that you have anything handy to read regarding that I still don t even fully grasp favor composition over inheritance besides that I know that everyone says it and so I m trying to see if there are any good articles that might make the lightbulb go off for cohesion vs coupling

Leland Richardson [G] · Answer

the favor composition over inheritance bit is a bit of a misnomer IMO since inheritance is just another form of composition class based inheritance has some very useful properties but also some big problems I tried to talk about some of them in my ADS talk not sure if you ve seen it i can link it if not

Leland Richardson [G] · Answer

My talk at ADS which we discussed during the podcast has a lot of similarities to Pete Hunt s talk Rethinking Best Practices that was from a long time ago when react had just been open sourced and a lot of people were confused about it Some of it is dated but the guiding principles are still relevant and align extremely closely to what i was saying in my talk This is the talk that really shifted my mindset back when it was given

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Colton Idle · Answer

Awesome Thank you very much And actually is a bit of a misnomer IMO since inheritance is just another form of composition might have just helped it click Why hasn t anyone else said that before Hahah Thank you I will rewatch your ADS talk and the talk above Appreciate it < Leland Richardson G >

Leland Richardson [G] · Answer

I m also a huge fan of Ryan Florence s talks on React A good one is here <https www youtube com watch time continue=1 amp v=kp NOggyz54>

Leland Richardson [G] · Answer

it might not make as much sense if you aren t familiar with react though i can t recall

Colton Idle · Answer

I ve been trying to learn a little bit of react before jumping onto compose so this is actually really helpful

Leland Richardson [G] · Answer

And then here is my ADS talk for those who are listening in and haven t seen it <https www youtube com watch v=Q9MtlmmN4Q0>

Leland Richardson [G] · Answer

Also on the reading side virtually 100 of Dan Abramov s blog is gold <https overreacted io >

Leland Richardson [G] · Answer

react has a lot of similarities to compose but they re definitely not the same thing a lot of patterns will emerge from compose that are very distinct due to some of the differences

Leland Richardson [G] · Answer

i ve definitely found myself writing things differently after getting used to it for a while

Colton Idle · Answer

Thanks for calling that out I ll try not to engrain my way of thinking from react into compose

Leland Richardson [G] · Answer

but also the android ecosystem has a lot of patterns and habits that will influence patterns that emerge in a big way both good and bad

Leland Richardson [G] · Answer

sometimes i m shocked at the number of layers android developers want to slap on things stuck out tongue

Leland Richardson [G] · Answer

IMO compose really embraces an ethos of simplicity and i think it will take some people a while to realize that they can shed gt 50 of the weight of their code if they want to

Colton Idle · Answer

This all just has me more and more excited to start shipping compose