It seems like Jetpack Compose is much similar to w...

# compose

[passiondroid]

It seems like Jetpack Compose is much similar to writing UI in Flutter.

[Andy Gibel]

yeah it does seem super weird that Google is backing both horses in that race

[Steve]

At the same time, it makes sense that the Android platform team would take inspiration from something else internal to Google

[Andy Gibel]

last I heard the teams didn't really like each other too much 🙂

[Andy Gibel]

I wonder what @jw thinks of Compose. He's in a unique position in that he's come out against Flutter and is also heavily involved in Kotlin

[George Mount]

We actually like the Flutter team quite a bit. We have learned a lot from them and really respect their experience. Props to Flutter team!

[Andy Gibel]

don't you have competing products though? (Not to say ya'll cant get along :))

[Andy Gibel]

I realize Flutter is endeavoring to do more than just cross platform UI but let's say Compose + MPP vs. Flutter

[jw]

Flutter isn't terrible for their API, it's terrible for their platform, ecosystem, and marketing choices

[Andy Gibel]

If you ever felt like writing say... a manifesto of sorts on that topic I don't think I'd be the only one reading it 😛 Flutter feels like it's now something I have defend against at companies before they flock to it as they did React Native or webviews

[George Mount]

As you can expect from a developer team working on Android, the Jetpack Compose UI team makes different choices than the Flutter team. For example, we really want to double down on Kotlin.

[Andy Gibel]

but I digress. Compose is awesome! Thanks for all the hard work guys

[Fudge]

Flutter isn't terrible for their API, it's terrible for their platform, ecosystem, and marketing choices

Ecosystem is referring to dart and I know what you mean by "marketing choices", but what do you mean by "platform"? 🤔

[dector]

I guess, Dart is the "platform" 🙂

[Andy Gibel]

Either that or the Widget system that bypasses native widgets

[ghedeon]

Flutter widgets support material guidelines better than native widgets. Shall we call them true native widgets? 🤔

[Andy Gibel]

I'm blanking on the name of the Chrome draw system that it uses

[Steve]

I don't think it uses a Chrome draw system, I think it's using a regular OpenGL context

[Steve]

it might be using the native Skia library that Android itself uses to draw it's widgets too

[Andy Gibel]

yeah that's the one

[Fudge]

Compose and Flutter are actually extremely similar when it comes to rendering.