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I added a massive hack to make it work. There is zero chance gradle fix the bugs. They simply don't ...
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s
I added a massive hack to make it work. There is zero chance gradle fix the bugs. They simply don't care.
s
I'm curious, could you point us at the Gradle issues so we could upvote / potentially fix them?
s
There's a bunch of them. They've been around since 2016 etc.
If I have time later, I'll try to dish them out.
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l
We even used to have a 
gradle-bug
label
To track issues that were out of our control
c
do you mean running a single test for example 
--tests com.mytest.TestClass.context.test
?
s
yep
c
Isn't the root cause of this problem that gradles testing api is so tied to classes and functions?
s
yes
Emil and I are looking at writing our own gradle plugin so we can bypass gradle's junit support completely.
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Then gradle's bugs can just be avoided
c
I have been wanting to add this to failgood for quite some time. it seems to me that gradle first sends class selectors for all the classes in a package, but then it filters the nodes and does not send all of them back. which is bad in my case because failgood already runs the tests when it discovers them.
s
You just need to get onboard Kotest and help us 😉
c
if you want my help in throwing out all config switches and 90% of the features then ok
s
lol
c
does “massive hack” mean detecting if the suite runs via gradle and then acting different than when it runs in idea?
s
It means using reflection to delve inside the objects
c
phew even more massive.
but to me it now seems that something that i had to add to get jumping to line numbers work in idea breaks single test execution in gradle
(idea wants a file source and gradle wants a class source). sadly gradle does not support composite sources so I cannot add both
that would be an easy thing to fix in gradle probably
s
gradle need to re-write their test support to properly support all the features of modern test frameworks.
c
maybe parts of kotest could be the blueprint for that
s
even with all of Kotest's bloat and slowness ?
c
but most issues that i discovered could be easily fixed while sticking to junit engine
from my point of view just fixing bugs without introducing new abstractions could improve gradle for third party test runners immensly
s
yes probably
You could easily tweak Kotest to make it like you want. You don't have to use all the features you don't like.
c
my problem with all the features and config switches is that it makes it harder to eliminate all bugs. I probably can’t help make kotest bugfree but I think i can make failgood mostly bugfree, my software engineering skill is cutting features. 🙂
I want to work on the best test runner for people who want to invest the time to make their test suite really good. not help them run their broken test suite
s
You'll end up adding more and more features and then you just hit parity with junit, and someone else comes along and says "I can build a really small test runner", and it repeats again 🙂
c
for example: I know there are some usecases for a beforeEach callback but I’m not adding one because it makes people write code that declared dependencies as 
var
and init them in the beforeEach callback, instead of making a `val`thats initialized at decaration time
s
beforeEach is useful for many things. Let the users decide if they want to use it or not.
c
most of the more exotic dsl features of kotest are not needed if you always use instancePerLeaf, and I think everybody should always use it
Let the users decide if they want to use it or not.
thats a great point of view, but I think theres an alternative for an opinionated test runner
s
Perhaps.
c
everybody who agrees with my point of view can just use failgood and everybody else can use kotest. currently seems to imply everybody except me using kotest 🙂
s
lol
c
I started it for fun and its still fun and went a bit out of hand
s
Well maybe if we succeed in replacing all the gradle junit stuff, you can leverage it for your own test runner.
c
maybe I should just try to fix some gradle test runner bugs. I filed so many IDEA bugs related to junit engine that failgood now works pretty well in idea.
maybe we should just write a new build tool.
s
kbuild
c
hmm I think there is just no way to get single test execution working with gradle and failgood. this works:
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./gradlew failgood:test --tests "failgood.internal.ContextExecutorTest"
but when i add a test name to it
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./gradlew failgood:test --tests "failgood.internal.ContextExecutorTest.filtering*"
gradle still only sends a class selector for ContextExecutorTest and then wants to do the filtering after discovery (which is too late because at that point failgood is already running all the tests inside ContextExecutorTest.
s
It should send a ClassMethod post discovery filter
and if you run tests before post filters, then you're out of luck
c
hmm yes exactly
i could read the postDiscoveryFilters via reflection 🙂
s
yep
c
is that what you use reflection for?
s
to delve inside the filter and pull out the regex
c
I’m now going to add issues in the gradle issue tracker for things that I find. https://github.com/gradle/gradle/issues/20941
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c
hehe. i had to start somewhere
also I wanted a really actionable change as a first step.
maybe I’m too optimistic but theres no way that my ticket can turn out in so much bike shedding as the other tickets.
s
You'd hope.
Fingers crossed it gets accepted.
c
I don’t even know if idea supports Composite Sources
did they ever add an integration test that uses kotest like marcphilip said in the ticket?
s
I'm not sure, didn't hear anything about it
c
I think my change alone is useless. there are so many assumptions that gradle does in its test support that are probably workarounds to junit bugs or junit custom runner bugs. The correct way would probably really be to add an integration test that uses kotest and one that uses failgood and then fix all issues.
s
kbuild
I was thinking of "kradle" 😁
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