Hi everyone! Who has tried to teach Kotlin to high...
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voddan
02/01/2021, 10:01 PMHi everyone! Who has tried to teach Kotlin to high school students as thier first language? Can you share you experience?
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altavir
02/02/2021, 6:26 AMI am teaching younger university students, and some of them do not have experience beyond basics. There are a lot of things to say. It works! But there are some things that are hard for beginners.
altavir
02/02/2021, 6:39 AMThe main complication at first is the build system. For programmers I start with gradle since they really need to feel it. But for general audience maybe it is better to start with kotlin-jupyter instead.
The second thing are classes. People tent to start with OOP, but I do not think it is the main point in Kotlin so it is better to start with functions and extensions and move to classes later.
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Sebastian Aigner
02/02/2021, 8:57 AM@Nico is also teaching Kotlin for high-school students. Maybe he can also share some of his insights? 🙂
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Nico
02/02/2021, 8:58 AMHey you two.
Nico
02/02/2021, 8:59 AMI actually use gradle because I built everything on gamification with a kotlin game engine
Nico
02/02/2021, 9:00 AMIt’s a stretch to say at least. I really think that JetBrains should supple a stripped down version of IDEA hiding all the upper floors. Sth like BlueJ
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altavir
02/02/2021, 9:00 AMI think that gradle is a quite important part of the ecosystem, so I actually start with it. But it is a bit hard for newbies.
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voddan
02/04/2021, 7:17 PMNice to see a few people who have already walked this path!
voddan
02/04/2021, 7:18 PMI am doing this course for an online IT school that works with 8-15 year-olds
voddan
02/04/2021, 7:19 PMThey already have a Kotlin+Android course, and I need to build an introduction for it
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Nico
02/04/2021, 7:19 PMNice to hear that. I teach Kotlin since 2019 in a German Grammar School
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voddan
02/04/2021, 7:20 PMWhat are you opinions on Atomic Kotlin book? Do you like the order in which they give material there?
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Nico
02/04/2021, 7:21 PMI've never read it. sorry. I only read Kotlin in action at the pool at a summer vacation 2019. Was nice
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voddan
02/04/2021, 7:22 PMNo problem
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Nico
02/04/2021, 7:22 PMDo you target android/mobile in your course?
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voddan
02/04/2021, 7:24 PMYes, the goal is to prepare student for an Android/Kotlin course. Eventually we would like to have other advanced courses such as Games+Kotlin and Desktop UI+Kotlin
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Nico
02/04/2021, 7:26 PMNice. I like that. My motivation is gamification. I used to help developing and maintaining a Kotlin Gaming Engine (KorGE). I no longer am part of the inner core but I still use the engine in my courses.
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voddan
02/04/2021, 7:26 PM@Nico do you have any public links that you could share? Maybe some materials or talks on this topic?
voddan
02/04/2021, 7:26 PMKorGE
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Nico
02/04/2021, 7:26 PMOn KorGE?
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voddan
02/04/2021, 7:26 PMCool! I hear about its release a short while ago
voddan
02/04/2021, 7:27 PMNot KorGE at the moment
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Nico
02/04/2021, 7:27 PMYeah it is very good and perfect for students. 3 lines and you habe a moving Sprite on the screen
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voddan
02/04/2021, 7:27 PMI meant teaching materials for your Kotlin course
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Nico
02/04/2021, 7:28 PMWell. There still is emig.me But it is outdated and in German. We use an internal publication system for our materials now. Some material is on github tho.
Nico
02/04/2021, 7:29 PMNico
02/04/2021, 7:31 PMWe really should stay in touch and exchange infos about our experiences
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