Yeah... I'm about to give up on this whole dam platform. I'm done for the night.

Going back to the previous thread, what issues are you running into? I wouldn’t necessarily dump your current config and use a separate template. It would be easier to help if this were public code we could look at.

My issues are vast at this point: there a reoccuring build error messages from gradle or intelliJ, there is disorder from the way the multiplatform and android plugins are designed (tasks/folders, its a mess, many don't work, don't know which I need) and I have resulting issues with the way the KampKit project (and all similar projects I've seen) is setup... I don't believe in starting directly with someone elses template unless I understand 99% of everything in it. I studied all the intelliJ Kotlin, gradle, android templates... I must have made 100 templates while researching and I feel I understand much, 95%, good enough. But there is no template for jvm/js/ios/android/common all together, so I've turned to 5-10 templates like this one, there are slight differences between them but the overall Philosophy is the same. I tend to disagree with some of the layout philosophy (though my mind is open to convincing otherwise) and I suspect I've made my task tough for trying to build it a little differently... but it really shouldn't have caused this much pain, I'm only really trying to change the location of a few folders. I can share my code with you, project is still early... but I can't make the repo public. I could also provide you with a psuedo template if you want, which should show you what I would really like and so maybe you could tell me if that's achievable.

“just by bringing in android I feel the entire thing is a big mess” I don’t really have good answers there, other than working through the errors to get the build working. The Android plugin is in Google’s hands. Interacting with it can generally be difficult and brittle, as they’ve added quite a bit of custom stuff that’s Android-specific. I think it would be best to do a “psuedo template” and get kind of a team effort going to sort out issues. That way there’s a functional “template” at the end that is what you’re looking for. Also, my availability is spotty at best.

No worries man, take a look at the psuedo template I just attached, should take less than 45 seconds to understand what my brain is telling me is best

Not clear on what

kotlin("android")

is? As a dependency?

plugins {
    id("com.android.application")
    id("kotlin-android")
    id("kotlin-android-extensions")
}

the last two plugins break my app beyond belief

if you use kotlin dsl you have to specify it as

plugins {
    id("com.android.application")
    kotlin("android")
    kotlin("android.extensions")
}

Plugin [id: 'org.jetbrains.kotlin.android'] was not found in any of the following sources

where do you apply those plugins?

root/app/build.gradle.kts is where they are supposed to go, but tried every build file.

your project structure seems odd to me. I have the structure like this

Yeah, I was going from jvm/js project to include an android app that reads from the jvm

Can you not share your build.grade files and project structure?

I could pm it if needed, I don't have on github yet, but I think I've decided to do my apps in dart... it was so much easier to setup and just makes more sense to me, and it files a need multiplatform didn't, common app frontend design... not having to learn too much iOS makes me happy. I still have my server and and js in kotlin multiplatform, that still makes sense to me; likely going to continue trying to make a website entirely out of kotlin with a rest feeding the darp apps... or maybe I merge that into dart later too, don't know, dart doesn't seem appropriate for server... I like Kotlin for 2 main reasons: a) I've hated java for 20 years and b) the promise of writing everything in one language is something I've wanted for 20 years... I like Kotlin better as a language than dart for sure, but I've been experimenting with app frameworks for months and never got a ground up kotlin multi-platform project to work with all possible targets, all tasks... even the examples had failed tasks, and the tasks were all mixed together and overdone, poorly explained.... teh iOS/android only project works okay... but for me the business logic is far more trivial than the view, so again dart wins out on approach there for me.