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# kotlin-nativea
Artyom Degtyarev [JB]
03/15/2021, 3:28 PMHello everyone!
I’m Artyom, Support Engineer for the Kotlin/Native team. We’ve been talking about using Kotlin for native targets with you for some time, and now I would like your help.
I’m performing a small research project on the Kotlin/Native’s Linux x86-64 target state. At this stage, I want to collect some data about its use and how common it is compared to other targets.
If you’re targeting desktop Linux with Kotlin/Native and would like to participate in an interview (video or audio) about ~30 minutes long, please contact me. Write me a DM, or use the 🙋 reaction below.
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serebit
03/15/2021, 3:52 PMFinally, an interview for me!
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Big Chungus
03/15/2021, 3:54 PMLooking at maven central, there are 210 libs supporting linuxX64 vs 254 macosX64 & 191 mingwX64 & 277 iosX64
I think it's fair to say that it's fairly popular, not too far behind ios (which I find surprising!)
Big Chungus
03/15/2021, 3:56 PMP.S. Does kotlin support linuxX86? There are no linux_x86 libs on maven central whatsoever!
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serebit
03/15/2021, 3:56 PMIt does not, only amd64. Which makes sense, there isn't really much of a use case for supporting x86 on Linux desktop
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Big Chungus
03/15/2021, 3:57 PMPhew, thought I was going nuts 😁
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russhwolf
03/15/2021, 4:02 PMThose lib counts can be misleading without usage statistics. For example, Multiplatform Settings publishes interfaces to LinuxX64 but no implementation, so it'll probably show up in your 210 libs supporting LinuxX64 but nobody's actually using it. There were 52 downloads of
multiplatform-settings-linuxx64multiplatform-settings-iosx64s
serebit
03/15/2021, 4:03 PMI don't think K/N is being used for production Linux desktop apps nearly as often as it's being used for production iOS or Android apps, but I imagine that's partially because of the huge marketing push that JetBrains have done with KMM
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Big Chungus
03/15/2021, 4:03 PMIndeed. Also on my stats above, "lib" is more of an "artifact". Meaning that if a single lib (kodeing for example) has multiple MPP modules (core, types-erased, JSR...), each one of those MPP module will be a +1 to the total count.
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serebit
03/15/2021, 4:04 PMI mean I've made a desktop Linux app, but I also didn't use any Kotlin libraries for it outside of the standard library, just C interop (though I do use kotlinx-cli for part of it)
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Big Chungus
03/15/2021, 4:05 PMAlso those are just libs. There can be a single lib, but if thousands of projects are built on it, then that platform would be "popular" regardless.
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v79
03/15/2021, 6:52 PMIt's Linux_arm32Hfp which interests me more - Pi, anyone?
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napperley
03/15/2021, 8:00 PMIs it possible to expand the research to cover use cases of the linuxX64 target beyond desktop development (IoT, server etc)?
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louiscad
03/15/2021, 11:29 PMcc @Clocks
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Clocks
03/15/2021, 11:46 PMOh boi I have been called out, I'm ava for an interview
Clocks
03/15/2021, 11:55 PMThe major issue I see is lack of marketing for Linux. And that's because there is a lack of Linux libraries that speed up development of creating an application in the first place.
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