i got that one to work just now, but was wondering...

# kotlin-native

[jk2018]

i got that one to work just now, but was wondering if that only works bc it's bundled?

[jw]

Not exactly, but it does give it a leg up

[jk2018]

was originally trying to find a JSON lib that would work (kotlinx.serialization seems to work, yay) , but now I'm interested in finding any libs that would work, just for the sake of making one or two work

[jw]

I don't know of any that will do object binding in a multiplatform context.

[jk2018]

looking at https://github.com/KotlinBy/awesome-kotlin, there's a few called "pure kotlin" that end up depending on java

[jw]

Just parsing JSON in a multiplatform way is easy, but there aren't the necessary reflective APIs for creating and binding objects yet

[jk2018]

"parsing JSON in a multiplatform way is easy"... is there a lib I should know?

[jw]

I'm just saying that parsing JSON is the least interesting part of providing a JSON library

[jk2018]

ah, got it

[jw]

The reason these libraries still depend on Java APIs is because Kotlin does not provide the APIs necessary to provide the features of a JSON (or XML or whatever) library across platforms

[jk2018]

and those APIs are?

[jk2018]

reflection ?

[jw]

pretty much, yep

[jw]

you can't see annotations on properties, you can't create instances of objects reflectively, etc.

[jk2018]

right. to understand my context: I just wanted to try making a windows program ( without jvm) that does a bunch of basic stuff ( JSON parsing, running other programs ) and I guess I expected a few more Kotlin-only libs in general.

[jk2018]

This seems to be a nice example of one that supports many targets, but I still couldn't get it to work : .. https://github.com/ionspin/kotlin-multiplatform-bignum

[jk2018]

motivation is really that I like writing Kotlin, and would be able to create small exe files without any dep's... I guess it's a bit of a weird case.

[jw]

The ecosystem needs people building up multiplatform libraries, so perhaps you could help fill that void!

[jk2018]

I hear ya 🙂

[jk2018]

even just setting up a lib project that builds is quite a hurdle.. but yeah... and hey, thanks for responding