The video is now published oh the webinar. Any que...

# http4k

[dave]

The video is now published oh the webinar. Any question or comments about thuhgs that didn't make any sense (it all went past at 100mph), please let us know:

https://youtu.be/NjoCjupV8HE▾

[Riku]

I think this is the best walk-through for a beginner i have seen yet. Cheers.

[Razvan]

nice talk, great duo, I found it easy to follow (but not a beginner) and I wonder if some in the audience were much focused on classic REST that they didn't see the point (saw a comment "why would i want to do that ?").

[dave]

@Razvan interesting - at which point was that?

[dave]

although - I'm not surprised TBH, there's definitely "a thing" that you need to open your mind to in order to see why SaaF is so powerful. It's not the way that a lot of people are used to thinking about developing software

[fredrik.nordin]

I agree. It really only clicked for me when I realised I can invoke the whole app with requests without needing to spin up a server in my tests, that I fully appreciated the beauty of SaaF.

[Philipp Mayer]

I really really liked the live coding aspect and using the different tools from the toolbox. It just showed how fast you can build things and how one can set up test data easily.
The only thing that I'm not so sure of is if I would've grasped the whole simplicity. :)
Great talk, learned a lot!
@dave you mentioned some time ago that there might be something more in the works with JetBrains? :P

[dave]

@Philipp Mayer you'll just have to wait a little bit longer (not too long) 🙂

[Philipp Mayer]

Well I'm starting at a new company and they mentioned that they also want to look into other libraries/frameworks besides Spring.. gotta be prepared if I get a chance to pitch some nice small library.. :P

[Razvan]

Take care how you pitch it, I did that at some point with comparing different Kotlin libs (Ktor, http4k, Jooby, Micronaute, Quarkus, VertX, Helidon, SparkJava, HexagonKT) and when the choice closed between Ktor and http4k we where blinded by the fact that a big name like JetBrains was behind Ktor… after one project in Ktor, the second one I proved (by starting the same project both in ktor and http4k) the benefits of http4k. So don’t insist too much on the big names behind some.

[Razvan]

@dave sorry for the late response, (about 21-22min), is not clear what he didn’t understand, I thought it was about the need to do a proxy for another service. I guess the beginners are more used with CRUD rather than microservices.

[Philipp Mayer]

Thanks for the insight! Indeed a good point. It's just something that I think of where I can't even be sure if there will be such a discussion. Anyway, thanks a lot!