guess I should have made this a thread.. yeah I ha...

# random

[codeslubber]

guess I should have made this a thread.. yeah I had a 2017 for 4 or 5 months this year, maybe adjusted brightness with it once or twice..

[karelpeeters]

🔥 Why did you buy it then? Wasn't it clearly useless from the beginning?

[codeslubber]

I didn't buy the 2017, but you are probably asking @snowe

[karelpeeters]

Ah because you said you had one for a while. Company issued?

[codeslubber]

if you look at the choices though, you cannot remove it from a machine and still get high end processor and memory options

[codeslubber]

right yes

[karelpeeters]

I see.

[snowe]

I didn't buy anything. Given it for work.

[snowe]

I've never bought a macbook.

[snowe]

only owned one mac ever, a powermac g5

[codeslubber]

my personal MBP is a 2013 which I have wanted to upgrade for a while but each possibility has been instead a pratfall...

[dalexander]

Yeah, really unfortunate that Apple can't seem to produce a product that makes devs happy. There's a bunch of people who want to like Apple laptops, but find the most recent ones unsuitable for various reasons (butterfly switches, touch bar, touch pad, throttling, etc.)

[codeslubber]

yeah their team doesn't seem to care, I think the 'designers' all think people who write code are mostly poor and live elsewhere.. to them a power user is someone who is in Adobe all day, making the blueprints for the slaves to hammer out.. none of those people are going to worry about throttling...

[snowe]

My coworkers, who are in adobe all day, still hate the newer macs.

[codeslubber]

oh ok good

[codeslubber]

its too bad the only team at apple who still has a clue is the developer team

[snowe]

idk about that.

[codeslubber]

Xcode works pretty well lately and the new one

[karelpeeters]

I want to meet someone who buys and likes these things once, because they must exist right?

[codeslubber]

runs tests SUPER fast

[codeslubber]

if you find that guy

[snowe]

i will say that my adobe coworkers like the newer macs because they are faster for the programs they use.

[codeslubber]

please tell him to make a YouTube channel

[snowe]

but they really dislike the touchbar.

[codeslubber]

oh ok that's good

[snowe]

and the port situation

[codeslubber]

yeah

[snowe]

I realize what I said was contradictory, but what i mean is they hate the design, like the speed.

[snowe]

but for me (the only dev to have the newer mac because I told everyone how terrible it was), it's so much slower than everyone else's machine

[codeslubber]

yeah I get it.. for sure Intel deserves a lot of the blame but

[snowe]

but i really like the touchpad.

[codeslubber]

if the chip needs a bit more space and more fans, deal with it

[codeslubber]

yeah the touchpad is good

[codeslubber]

I have one on my desktop too never going back to a mouse

[codeslubber]

funny thing is the only thing that made me hate on it at all was the bluetooth, but I figured out I could plug it into a powered port on my dock

[dalexander]

My experience with the new touchpad is that it fails to correctly reject palms a few times a day which leads to typing in weird places.

[codeslubber]

speaking of garbage tech, bluetooth was on Twitter yapping about its 20th birthday, I replied 'you'd have thought that would have been sufficient time to produce a working version...'

[codeslubber]

@dalexander huh, interesting.. it is kind of huge on the newer machines.. again spend most my time typing into a keyboard with the touchpad sitting beside it..

[dalexander]

Ahh... Yeah, I'm referring to the huge one on the newer models. The smaller one never gave me any problems after taking a day or two to get used to it.

[snowe]

oh I hate the detached touchpad, but the one on the laptop is a good size. I also had issues with it detecting my palm, but something seems to have resolved, and I don't have that issue anymore.

[karelpeeters]

Wait what's the bluetooth thing about?

[snowe]

I use a wired mouse regularly

[snowe]

he's saying bluetooth is crap

[codeslubber]

the trackpad drops off all the time

[codeslubber]

so you have to rediscover it

[codeslubber]

which, if it happened once a month, no problem, by the 4th or 5th time in a week you just want to run over it with your car...

[codeslubber]

furthermore if someone else docks, like my intern, with a different machine

[codeslubber]

he has to discover it

[codeslubber]

then when he leaves

[codeslubber]

I have to turn it off and rediscover it

[codeslubber]

completely INSANE for a product that has been around for 20 years

[codeslubber]

advantage over a cable for all that? 0

[dalexander]

Sometimes it's still hard to even get bluetooth devices to pair and maintain connection, which is completely crazy given that 802.11 has been around for so long, which does something similar and is pretty reliable.

[codeslubber]

yeah totally agree, it's one of those technologies that just makes no sense, I had the AirPods and the PixelBuds, the nuisance factor on the PBs is completely bananas.. a lot of it is bluetooth...

[elect]

@codeslubber how much do you need osx mobile?

[codeslubber]

yeah that's the problem

[codeslubber]

I do have a bunch of projects I am involved with that have iOS mobile @Android75..

[elect]

no, I mean, do you really need it on a laptop? Otherwise take in account a mac pro

[codeslubber]

Oh yeah I have thought that a million times too. As I said on the thread I would love to have a brick that I take back and forth between a few stations. You can get a good 4K monitor to use a monitor for < $300. It would be amazing to have a laptop that can then plug into that brick when/if needed and when not plugged into it it would essentially be a chromebook. (Yes we are around the corner in Mister Rogers' Neighborhood where the puppets live, since no one thinks developers are a market that should be catered to.)