I think this crossed the spam line
# metaz
Zac Sweers
09/08/2021, 12:40 AMI think this crossed the spam line
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altavir
09/08/2021, 7:45 AMYep, ban.
altavir
09/08/2021, 7:47 AM@gildor @louiscad
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louiscad
09/08/2021, 8:03 AMModerators currently cannot delete posts, nor suspend accounts, it's only a diplomatic/relational role for the time being.
Here's my action for this case: https://kotlinlang.slack.com/archives/C0B8M7BUY/p1631087923285400?thread_ts=1631043469.276000&cid=C0B8M7BUY
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louiscad
09/08/2021, 12:15 PMCase closed 🙂
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CLOVIS
09/08/2021, 10:39 PMYour reaction was on point, but I think this is one of the clear cut cases where a ban is warranted. I understand that JetBrains doesn't want to give that power to volunteers though.
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louiscad
09/09/2021, 7:44 AMThey didn't need a ban, they just needed more "in your face" Code of Conduct, or a quizz to ensure they acknowledged it.
They apologized after my message, telling they'd not do it again, and they deleted the messages when I pointed out that they can be removed.
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CLOVIS
09/09/2021, 7:58 AMFair enough.
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Javier
09/09/2021, 12:25 PMIMO it should be banned if that behavior is repeated in the future, if it is the first time, only an advice is enough
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Youssef Shoaib [MOD]
09/11/2021, 7:29 PMIn fact, maybe the Slack needs a 3-strike rule. As in, you get 2 warnings for infringing behaviour, and on the 3rd warning you get perma-banned. Or maybe you get a 1 month ban?
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Zac Sweers
09/11/2021, 7:46 PMwho is going to maintain that?
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Youssef Shoaib [MOD]
09/11/2021, 7:49 PMThe admins I presume? it seems like an administrative problem, just like how assigning moderators and ensuring that they're doing their job right is also an administrative problem
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Zac Sweers
09/11/2021, 8:18 PMHaving been an admin in several large other communities of various sizes and types, I can say for sure that that is no small ask. Considering most of these cases are someone coming in to advertise something and then disengage from the community, it wouldn't really be worthwhile either. Temp bans don't do anything when the user wasn't planning to return anyway, so why bother with the upkeep on the admin side. etc etc
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Youssef Shoaib [MOD]
09/11/2021, 8:29 PMThat's fair, but the Kotlin community is growing enough (I feel) that having this system now will help in the future to keep everything in check. Maybe even for some offenses (like advertising) an outright ban is issued, while for smaller ones (spamming, asking a question in a channel not made for that question, etc) can give warnings
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