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benjamin-olx
08/02/2018, 8:21 AMI am looking for a freelancing Kotlin Backend Engineer who could support us further enhancing our global payment service on-site in our office in Berlin for about 6 months. Hourly rate negotiable.
Here is some more info about what we are building exactly: https://tech.olx.com/olx-payments-powered-by-kotlin-95eb77bafacb
Feel free to message me with any questions you might have!
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nfrankel
08/02/2018, 3:24 PMFeel free to message me with any questions you might have!did you read the channel policy? it’s easy: it’s in the description
but just because it’s you:
CHANNEL POLICY - Job ads need to have a specific description of what is expected, location, remote/on-site, and salary range - postings without the above information will be deleted
seems like your job ad doesn’t comply
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gmariotti
08/02/2018, 5:58 PM@nfrankel can you please write what the ad is missing? Except for the hourly rate (that, I believe, is conceptually different from salary range) everything seems fine to me
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nfrankel
08/02/2018, 5:59 PMthat’s the point:
can you can please define the hourly rate you’re willing to pay?
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gmariotti
08/02/2018, 6:07 PMbut should you do it for a freelancing position? My understanding, but I have no experience in this field, is that it’s you, as a freelancer, that decide how much your experience and time is worth. So putting there just a number, seems to me nothing more than noise
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nfrankel
08/02/2018, 6:10 PMit’s also true that an employee decides how much he’s worth
the policy is made so that developers don’t lose their time
since the company already knows the range
so they they only apply if there’s a potential match
whether as a regular employee or a freelancer
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gmariotti
08/02/2018, 6:21 PMI don’t personally agree on this, I do believe that the salary range should be part of the initial discussion, giving a company the possibility to understand if the problem in a job offer is the salary range or not
I do believe that a job description well done is much more important and this channel should help connecting kotlin engineers all over the world, like it did for me
but again, I don’t make the rules here, so 🤷♂️
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neworldlt
08/02/2018, 7:48 PMMaybe companies aren’t telling salary or hourly ranges to get cheaper developers.
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benjamin-olx
08/02/2018, 8:29 PMNot the case here, thing is that hourly rates for freelancers fluctuate quite a bit and I simply did not have a good average to name I deemed accurate. But if you insist on it so much then I can tell you that we paid between 70-90 EUR before taxes in the past.
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nfrankel
08/02/2018, 8:32 PMno imagine the time that we all would have gained if you had just told that upfront 🙂
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pivovarit
08/03/2018, 7:19 AM@benjamin-olx looks like a good offer - I think we’ll gladly keep it here, thanks for sharing 🙂 keep in mind that some companies come here, and offer 12$/h, and put “free weekends” in the benefits section